Problem thread

One-way or two-way links

Should a link be a cheap one-way pointer that can break, or a maintained two-way relationship?

issue
linking
status
reopened
steps
7, 1945–2018
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Early hypertext designs, above all Ted Nelson's Xanadu, wanted links that both ends know about and that never break. The Web chose one-way links that anyone can make without asking, and Berners-Lee later described that as trading consistency for scalability. The cost shows in link rot. Webmention brought a way back: a site can be told when someone links to it.

Lineage

  1. Jul 1945
    As We May Think

    Imagines the memex, a desk for storing records and linking them by association, so that a reader can build and share trails between documents. [src]

  2. 1960
    Project Xanadu

    Links are visible and can be followed from all endpoints, and documents can include parts of others by reference (transclusion). Only partial systems were released: Udanax in 1998, OpenXanadu in 2014. [src]

  3. 1965
    A File Structure for the Complex, the Changing and the Indeterminate

    Introduces the word 'hypertext' in print, for a file structure that holds documents that change and link to one another. [src]

  4. 1990
    World Wide Web

    Links are one-way: a page can link anywhere without the target knowing or agreeing, and a link can break. Berners-Lee later called this the decision to make links monodirectional, 'sacrificing consistency for scalability'. [src]

  5. 26 Dec 2014
    Scholarly Context Not Found: One in Five Articles Suffers from Reference Rot

    The cost of links that can break: about one in five scholarly articles cites web resources that have since vanished or changed. [src]

  6. 12 Jan 2017
    reopens standard
    Webmention
    ↳ responds to World Wide Web

    A way to notify any URL when you mention it. The receiver fetches the source and checks that it really links to the target, so a page can show who links to it without a central index. [src1][src2]

  7. 23 Jan 2018
    ActivityPub

    In the Fediverse a reply names the post it answers and is delivered to the original author's inbox, so links between servers come with a notification back. [src]

Recent signals

Dated events that show the problem moving, newest last.

  1. 17 May 2024

    Pew finds 38% of web pages that existed in 2013 no longer load, and a quarter of all pages seen between 2013 and 2023 are gone.[src]

Open now

Under each question, the answers people have put forward or built. The catalogue gives no odds on them.

  • How can a site show who links to it without being flooded with spam? [src]
    Webmention requires receivers to verify each mention and allows them to moderate before publishing.
    • The receiving site verifies each mention and moderates what it shows. Webmention
      Webmention has the receiver check that the source really links to it; dealing with spam is left to the receiver.[src]
    • All records are public, so anyone can index who links to what. AT Protocol
      In AT Protocol every post is a public record in a repository, which indexers collect to show replies and links.[src]
  • Can a link keep pointing at what was cited after the target changes? [src1][src2]
    Xanadu's links and transclusions were meant to survive edits; on the Web, cited pages often change or vanish.
    • Archive the page when you cite it, and link to both. Wayback Machine
      The Wayback Machine keeps copies that a citation can point to as well as the live page.[src]

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